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Sequencer

Postby BobF » Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:13 pm

Bobs DigitalSequencerV5.fsm
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Hello again TSt,

You may wish to look this over. I posted it awhile back and it uses a 74154 as it's heart. It's NOT perfect, but maybe you can improve upon it. Use anything you want from it.

Take care, BobF.....
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Re: Digital Logic

Postby TSt » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:05 am

thank you BobF,
and here my 2nd schematic with 74154 (2, 4, 8 and 16 steps) - the other variant uses the 4017
(reset doesn't operate yet) I've been looking for the other step modes 3, 5, 7 etc.

in the attachment the service-manual of the Yamaha-CS-30 and the new fsm-file

cheers
TSt 8-)
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CS-30_stepseq_schematic_excerpt_1.jpg
CS-30_stepseq_schematic_excerpt_1.jpg (143.14 KiB) Viewed 22492 times
testlab_8_16step_seq_clk_74193_74154_4017_dev_0.fsm
CS-30 step-seq schematic
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Re: Digital Logic

Postby TSt » Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:16 pm

@BobF, @Roxy

after some times, I've got now a solution for an operating stepmode in this 8-step-sequencer

some help or explanation would be useful: to using the seq. you have to initialize the S and R input of the 4017
internal with 1 (H) and external his S with 1 and R with 0 (?), perhaps a better solution with gates or similar
components would be more practically (?)

I've been looking else for the "stop after one cycle" - mode in this seq.

at last: in Maxmsp I'm using the loadbang, loadmessage routines to intialize a Max-patcher, does these mean in FS only
numbers (int, float), variables, strings are useful?

thanks and happy maxing
TSt 8-)
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Re: Digital Logic

Postby rocknrollkat » Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:39 pm

TSt wrote:@BobF, @Roxy

after some times, I've got now a solution for an operating stepmode in this 8-step-sequencer

some help or explanation would be useful: to using the seq. you have to initialize the S and R input of the 4017
internal with 1 (H) and external his S with 1 and R with 0 (?), perhaps a better solution with gates or similar
components would be more practically (?)

I've been looking else for the "stop after one cycle" - mode in this seq.

at last: in Maxmsp I'm using the loadbang, loadmessage routines to intialize a Max-patcher, does these mean in FS only
numbers (int, float), variables, strings are useful?

thanks and happy maxing
TSt 8-)


Hi TSt,
Here's what's happening....
I just installed 3.0.9, I spent all of yesterday trying to keep it from crashing.
I did a complete reinstall at 3 A.M. this morning, I haven't reloaded most of my modules, etc., because 3.0.9 doesn't like many of them.
I went online to see what the CS 30 is all about.
Here's an instant hookup I built with 3.0.9 barely working.
It's a bare bones CS 30 8 step sequencer, a different approach from what you're taking, maybe this will give you some ideas.
It's the best I could do on short notice !

ROXY :D
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ROXY's CS 30 8 step.fsm
Instant bare bones 8 step CS 30 sequencer for you !
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Re: Digital Logic

Postby TSt » Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:53 pm

thank you ROXY, but this schematic can't be open with my FS ver. 3.0.8.1

could you upload a screenhot of your schematic please?

happy maxing

TSt 8-)
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Re: Digital Logic

Postby rocknrollkat » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:24 pm

TSt wrote:thank you ROXY, but this schematic can't be open with my FS ver. 3.0.8.1

could you upload a screenhot of your schematic please?

happy maxing

TSt 8-)

Sure thing !
I'm really annoyed that I spent 99 bucks on the latest update, spent a day getting it working, now nobody can see my hookups !
Anyway, here are the ecreenshots, the pot in Schem 1, far left is 1 to 0 , NOT 0 to 1.

ROXY :D
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Schematics for CS-30.rar
4 screenshots for you, I hope this helps !
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Re: Digital Logic

Postby TSt » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:50 pm

thanks ROXY, so would you say that the FS 3.0.8.1 is a bit more stable as this newer version?

in the attachment my actual status of the 8-step seq - also the "stop after one cycle" mode was now solved
- but this was a little bit tricky (finished before your interesting seq-schematic was uploaded)

the newest mode "one cycle after pressed (MIDI) key" it's not finished yet, you can use this "mode"
by switching the "one cycle after pressed key"-button to on, I've test this mode with an extern MIDI-sequence

to activate one cycle mode, switch the toggle man/clk to clk
start/stop toggle is on

one cycle/repeat should be set to off

now you can activate the one cycle mode with the "one cycle" button (unfortunately I've found only this kind of button to operating with this mode - the button must be press twice, oddly enough only this button works in the schematic)

happy maxing

TSt 8-)
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Re: Digital Logic

Postby Spogg » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:13 pm

rocknrollkat wrote:I just installed 3.0.9, I spent all of yesterday trying to keep it from crashing.


The versions of 3.09 you can see available for download are early beta test releases and were not meant to be used in anger. They have many issues.

You must use the 3.08.1 version until the final 3.09 is released. Otherwise you will have many problems, and nobody else is using those 3.09 "betas" so sharing isn't possible.

Sorry for the bad news!

Cheers

Spogg
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Re: Digital Logic

Postby TSt » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:53 pm

thank you Spogg for this information,

now here an "updated" version of the 8-step-seq
(these strange situation wit the "one cycle" button exists farther)

incoming MIDI-sequences operates well together with this seq

happy maxing

TSt 8-)
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Re: Digital Logic

Postby rocknrollkat » Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:15 pm

Spogg wrote:
rocknrollkat wrote:I just installed 3.0.9, I spent all of yesterday trying to keep it from crashing.


The versions of 3.09 you can see available for download are early beta test releases and were not meant to be used in anger. They have many issues.

You must use the 3.08.1 version until the final 3.09 is released. Otherwise you will have many problems, and nobody else is using those 3.09 "betas" so sharing isn't possible.

Sorry for the bad news!

Cheers

Spogg


Hi Spogg,
When I spend 99 dollars so I can see BobF's posts and I have nothing but problems, yes, I get cranky.
I tried installing 3.0.8 and I am cheerfully told that I don't have "SSE", and I can't load anything.
I can go back to 3.0.7 but then I can't see BobF's posts.
Okay then, 3.0.7 is what it'll have to be.
I wish someone would have told me ahead of time that 3.0.9 is off limits.
Why do they release it if it doesn't work ?
And why will 3.0.8 give me a bogus error message when my system checker tells me I have SSE ?
(Rhetorical questions at this point.)
And now I have to reconstruct my CS-30 from scratch in 3.0.7.

Oh well....

ROXY :D
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