Any word on a 64 bit version ?

[jjs]

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[kortezzzz]

Just read a "kush audio"s post on KVR forum+all replies and i think this post (and i mean the replies) represents the reality at its best. "no 64bit? no cash for kush", he said. Who can argue with that? and who wants to, anyway?

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=365828

[MegaHurtz]

KVR is a scam, if you want to make some money not selling patches, go MAC. But sooner or later theyre all coming back to PC and are able to run 32. It will be just like it was. AD converters will not be higher than 32 any time soon, they have been this way since 2000, and sooner.

But it's probably more effective to just make reaaly clever sounds with it. And rock.

[kortezzzz]

KVR is a scam

Why?...

if you want to make some money not selling patches, go MAC

I don't think patches do more money then interesting instruments\effects. i had few discuses about it with musiciansand most of them said they are tired of using that kontakt stuff and they hate it too. most of them said they wish seeing small cool cleaver stuff rather than ugly and clumsy beasts like kontakt\reaktor\sampletank which force you using mega-tons of samples. and by the way, most surprising thing i'v heard was the empathy for the old steinberg's "virtual guitarist". people just crazy about it.

AD converters will not be higher than 32 any time soon, they have been this way since 2000, and sooner

never heard on it. can you please share any links to articles or something that confirm that?

But it's probably more effective to just make reaaly clever sounds with it. And rock

mmm... with what?

[MegaHurtz]

"KVR is a scam" Just think thats the case, its all about the VA stuff. But have to admit there may be a market for that.

go MAC

They actually buy stuff, PC users tend to get all uptight about buying stuff.

I don't think patches do more money then interesting instruments\effects. i had few discuses about it with musiciansand most of them said they are tired of using that kontakt stuff and they hate it too.

True me too. Good small stuff rocks, and if its cheap im not biassed against it.

AD converters will not be higher than 32 any time soon, they have been this way since 2000, and sooner

It has to do with accuracy, if you speed up the ad coversion any further it will be less accurate. Making it pointless to do so. It has been like that for a while now. 24bits.. No good sources, except a theoretical class in 2000 somewhere. Still stands strong today. Not saying a stroke of brilliance may not change that. But has yet to happen.

with what?

Take Squarepusher for instance, he is not selling patches. Just using Reaktor a lot.

[kortezzzz]

They actually buy stuff, PC users tend to get all uptight about buying stuff.

Yeah, they do buy. it's true. but pc market is a way bigger. and if only few percents of it love your product and buy it, you are just fine. but seem like it can happen only after we'll provide these market 64bit versions. The psychological effect of having native 64bit version in the arsenal is huge. you get more respect from the masses. same story with this AXX support stuff; everybody release it lately.

if you speed up the ad conversion any further it will be less accurate

interesting statement. i'll try to find some info on google. anyway, if 24bit is not a good source, whats the alternative? 16bit?

[Tzarls]

Some stuff you might enjoy:

http://productionadvice.co.uk/no-stair-steps-in-digital-audio/

[RJHollins]

lot of debatable stuff.

Eyes and Ears are two different 'sampling' instruments.

The Eyes are indeed 'digital' [they have a sampling rate], and a thing called 'persistence of vision'. [handy if we'd like to view a movie that flicks ON/OFF at 24 fps.

The Ears are an 'analogue' device, and monitor/convert pressure changes continuously [in comparison, an 'infinite' sampling rate].

This article is using the 'same old', wrong, comparisons.

Funny how we have 5 different senses ... fortunately, the operate differently.

Regardless ... the 64-bit format is constantly being requested from those interested in products we're building.
Bringing this format to FS would help everyone ... including the FS developers.

May the day come ... soon ?!?!?

[kortezzzz]

Regardless ... the 64-bit format is constantly being requested from those interested in products we're building.
Bringing this format to FS would help everyone ... including the FS developers.

Truth be, when i open my releases on 64bit reaper, I can't find any difference between my plugins and the other native 64bit ones. They all perform very good, as long as they are synthesis based and not sample based. but market's hype has it's own rules and few plugin producer encourage this "resolution race" as it Serves their interests.
Anyway, As we all know, 64bit resolution is probably the last step in the depth evolution of our generation.
there will not be 128bit OS and softs in the foreseeable future, because there will no need for that. 64bit depth platform meets the needs of any hardware combination that will be combined in the next 20 years. so, as we get our update to 64bit, it would be once and for all !!! no more requests after that. this would be the last station of this bus for a verrrrryyyyy long time. so please, DSPR, consider this parameter for the benefit of all.

[Tronic]

Some stuff you might enjoy:

http://productionadvice.co.uk/no-stair-steps-in-digital-audio/

Amen....

@Tzarls
what happen to GENERA?