DSP Robotics Support

Heya 8D,
Some guys at KVR are talking about using like a Raspberry Pi to make stompboxes that load a VST.
Hmm- does Flowstone compatible hardware enable sonmething like this?
Raspberry Pi is out coz it only has audio out.
Would be interested to hear what our options(if any) are here?
Just curious,
I guess I am mainly at home so it's no biggie to use my DAW.
Cheers

That's actually a really cool idea. Why aren't digital, software-based stomp boxes on the market already? (Or are they?)

Perfect Human Interface wrote:That's actually a really cool idea. Why aren't digital, software-based stomp boxes on the market already? (Or are they?)

Because it's too expensive. A Flowstone capable board would cost over 50$ when a similar performance can be had on a dsp-chip for 2$. Even Raspberry is expensive in that scale.

Thanks Matti,
(r u Finnish btw? U have the same name as my uncle)
There is some scope for cost though.
Last time I bought a Boss guitar pedal,
it was around $250 AUD.
Also U can't change what effect u have in there.
hmm
Which FS board are we talking about mate?

nix wrote:Thanks Matti,
(r u Finnish btw? U have the same name as my uncle)
There is some scope for cost though.
Last time I bought a Boss guitar pedal,
it was around $250 AUD.
Also U can't change what effect u have in there.
hmm
Which FS board are we talking about mate?

That pedals components prob cost 10% of that.. Or less

This board
http://www.dsprobotics.com/flowboard.html
It was a bit more than 50$. Didnt remember.

Yep, from Finland

hmm,
maybe RDSP would be interested to provide a solution.
It looks like that board only has digital outs,
I hope u can correct me though.
Thanks for the link,
I couldn't find that page for some reason.
Heippa!

matti wrote:

Perfect Human Interface wrote:That's actually a really cool idea. Why aren't digital, software-based stomp boxes on the market already? (Or are they?)

Because it's too expensive. A Flowstone capable board would cost over 50$ when a similar performance can be had on a dsp-chip for 2$. Even Raspberry is expensive in that scale.

Yep, the DSP chip might be 2$, but all the associated hardware needed for interfacing with the chip add to the cost. On the other hand, the price of multi effect floor boards is way over what you would spend buying an Raspberry Pi and maybe a floor controller and a decent USB interface. Of course there´s the software problem... I wonder what would happen if there was a kickstarter for such a project? DIY-multi-effects-floor-board with customizable software....

Tzarls wrote:I wonder what would happen if there was a kickstarter for such a project? DIY-multi-effects-floor-board with customizable software....

I'm working on a similar project for quite a time. Instead of a DSP, I use a FPGA (which is quite expensive). The benefit is, I can program in a processor core that fits the problem... eg. I could calculate a biquad in one clock cycle. But even with this, I have the problem that I still only have 1000-2000 cycles. The whole interfacing stuff is also quite difficult, especially the Ram... that's where I'm stuck right now.

Here...
http://www.zoom.co.jp/products/ms-100bt/

Its 150 dollars retail..
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MS100BT
So, there would have to be some serious goodies with something that was more expensive. Hell that one even supports blue tooth and a IK MM type custom shop. The Flowboard at 150 dollars alone kills the deal because what about everything else that would be needed.. ?

Nice idea though

That's a very sweet item, thanks for the share.
A setback for me though is that you have to use their effects,
it's not open like a VST host would be.

I suspect we can't really use the current Flowboard, just looking at the pins.

I'll think about adding a Zoom to the wishlist,
the price point is attractive, seeing how much I have invested in 4 hardware stomps, & ToneWorks multi-effect.