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How to retrigger a float (out) with same value?
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:00 pm
by Nowhk
Ive a float that output to my DAW using the module "Controller".
The fact is that if I have a value on it, and I try to output the same value, the control wont change.
Let say I've a float 0.5 (which set my knob to the middle during play), if I stop daw and I change the knob manually, when I restart daw (is playing) it should retrigger 0.5, and re align the knob to the middle. Instead, till the value on float module change (0.51 for example), the knob is frozen.
Any idea?
Re: How to retrigger a float (out) with same value?
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:06 pm
by Nubeat7
then you need to retrigger it using the "is playing" primitive...
Re: How to retrigger a float (out) with same value?
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:36 pm
by Nowhk
Nubeat7 wrote:then you need to retrigger it using the "is playing" primitive...
What do you mean with "retrigger it using is playing"? If I link "is playing" to the float I want to retrigger, it resets its value to 0 (if stopped) or 1 (if playing):
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Maybe I don't have understand what you mean, sorry
Re: How to retrigger a float (out) with same value?
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:33 pm
by Tronic
Excuse me, but let me ask you a few things:
Your knobs are not set up to receive the value when you move it from your DAW?
If not I believe your system has no real use,
because it is supposed that you can control the value also from the automation track,
so it should get the value if you move it from the GUI or from the automation track.
That said,
if you still want the function that you ask,
the primitive "is Playing" must generate a trig and connecting it (adding it) where you have the output value.
Re: How to retrigger a float (out) with same value?
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:05 pm
by Nowhk
Tronic wrote:Excuse me, but let me ask you a few things:
Your knobs are not set up to receive the value when you move it from your DAW?
If not I believe your system has no real use,
because it is supposed that you can control the value also from the automation track,
so it should get the value if you move it from the GUI or from the automation track.
That said,
if you still want the function that you ask,
the primitive "is Playing" must generate a trig and connecting it (adding it) where you have the output value.
No. My plug output to the daw and stop. If I stop it and I edit the knob, when I restart it must re align the knob at state 0 value. But if the float has already that value, it doesnt refresh. Do you see?
Re: How to retrigger a float (out) with same value?
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:14 pm
by Tronic
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Re: How to retrigger a float (out) with same value?
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:18 am
by Nowhk
Tronic wrote:The attachment this.png is no longer available
No man, it doesn't refresh
Here an example. My plug linked to the Volume knob of Fruity send.
If I manually write 0.5 (from 0, so different value) and I click enter on the Float module, I get the movement of the knob to the middle:
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Now, if I manually move the fruity knob (with mouse) to another value (0.7 for example), and I play my DAW, it doesn't retrigger 0.5 to the knob (neither using your method above with trigger):
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The knob keep to 0.7.
That's because the float module has not changed.
If I manually wrote 0.50001, it send again "0.5" (even if its not exactly 0.5, but 0.50001).
i.e. I'm still not able to retrigger the "same value", even using your method
Re: How to retrigger a float (out) with same value?
Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:55 pm
by Nowhk
No way guys? Happy new year!
Re: How to retrigger a float (out) with same value?
Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:50 pm
by tulamide
I don't have that controller prim, it seems to be FL Studio specific.
The circuit from Tronic is correct, so the issue could be either the controller prim, or the recognizing of the DAW playing.
Create a boolean. Connect the boolean output of the "Is playing" prim with the boolean. Everytime you stop and then start again, the boolean should switch to false and then back to true. Is it so?
If the answer is yes, the issue is related to the controller prim. You said it is reacting to a change when you do it manually.
Create a second float, set it to 0.5, but don't connect it to the controller prim. Stop your DAW. Now remove the links to the controller's value input and connect the second float to it. Does "fruity send" switch back to 0.5?
If not, then it is an issue with the controller prim, that we can't help with. You should report it as a bug then.
If yes, it might just be a timing issue and the trigger might just be delayed to work. But first check all the above.
Re: How to retrigger a float (out) with same value?
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:23 pm
by Nowhk
tulamide wrote:Create a boolean. Connect the boolean output of the "Is playing" prim with the boolean. Everytime you stop and then start again, the boolean should switch to false and then back to true. Is it so?
Yes it is.
tulamide wrote:Create a second float, set it to 0.5, but don't connect it to the controller prim. Stop your DAW. Now remove the links to the controller's value input and connect the second float to it. Does "fruity send" switch back to 0.5?
No it doesnt.
tulamide wrote:You should report it as a bug then.
If yes, it might just be a timing issue and the trigger might just be delayed to work. But first check all the above.
Ok so its the Controller prim the problem. Where do I report it as bug?