Selector with an ENGAGE/Activate feature

[RJHollins]

Struggling to pull this idea together ... trying to build an ENGAGE button logic.

There is a 'Radio' button selector that gives the user 5 selections to choose from.

Clicking through the radio indexes a 'preview' of the objects available for THAT selection. BUT ... they are NOT yet active [important].

Tied to the radio buttons is an ENGAGE button that activates that selection. A 'feature' of the ENGAGE button ... it will disappear after selection, and only reappear when a different radio button is hit. If the user goes back to the previously chosen button ... the ENGAGE button disappears [because it is active already].

The basics of this is working. The schematic 'logic' might be a bit goofy ... but it mirrors what I'm needing to do.

The problem:

When recalling settings via the PreSet Manager.

The radio buttons set to the stored value, but the ENGAGE button logic is not correct. I've played with this so much I can't see to a solution Maybe someone would please look ...

Maybe the current design logic is flawed ... I don't know, as I've gone in circles with this.
Here's a screen shot:

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and the schematic

Engage with Preset recall-1.fsm

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please help save me from myself Even wonder if a RUBY solution would be easier

[KG_is_back]

1.When I click engage, it sends trigger and the engage boolean is set true.

2. when I click different option, engage boolean is set false and trigger output is not send.

3. when I click back the option that was engaged, engage boolean is set true again and trigger is send.

Is that how it should be? shouldn't the trigger be send only when new engage is clicked?

[RJHollins]

3. when I click back the option that was engaged, engage boolean is set true again and trigger is send.

Is that how it should be? shouldn't the trigger be send only when new engage is clicked?

Hi KG !

Yes Sir, I do believe you are correct. [if I have everything behaving ]. However ... I was not sure that when everything fired up [at start], if the correct values would already be in place [something previously ENGAGED].

The 'issue' shows itself when switching banks with the PM.

Anyway ... to get to the bottom of it, I think you are right ... the 'trigger' should only happen with a 'new' engage.

BTW ... Thanks for looking in KG I'm following your other threads going on [trying to understand a little].
Sure appreciate !

[KG_is_back]

Here... this one seems to work correctly. I have build it anew. Much smaller and simpler I think. Changed the Engage button from toggle to click trigger too. Feel free to ask any questions.

[RJHollins]

Hi KG,

mmm ... a dramatic reduction for sure.

Doing some early testing. The 'engaged' selection seems to be working fine [picking a different index activates the engage display, while returning to to original index value clears it]. That makes good GUI sense

I'm seeing a problem cycling through the Preset Manager. The indexes are recalled correctly, however, the ENGAGE button displays [?!?]

Selecting a preset ... if I change the radio selection and THEN go to the 'saved' index, THEN the ENGAGE button disappears. [as it should do].

The PM does not trigger the engage button display logic correctly.

I need to study the example you've posted to better understand the circuit.

[KG_is_back]

Fixed... added "after preset change" trigger that is send from preset manager, to update stuff.

[RJHollins]

early results are lookin' mighty fine, KG

I need to test this from the full schematic that I pulled the original from to see how everyone plays together ...

Also ... due to the complexities of the project, I've been using NuBeats' special 'Multi Preset' module ... actually, I'm not sure if that is needed within the 'Engage' module ... these are things for me to learn still.

Hopefully, this will be a good, working fit ... will report back. Thanks KG !!!

[RJHollins]

so far we got smiles happening here !

Replaced all the original modules with the new KG 'Engage' module in my test project. Things workin' good. Then burned off a VST version and loaded into Reaper.

Of course, all the parameter changes/differences played havoc with the test project ... but I deleted the original and then re-added the new VST. Doing that means I have to re-set the new VST with the old values [but I'm getting use to that with every change or mod to the VST.

Early testing the new VST seems to be working without a hitch ! YEAH !

This is a critical component, so much more testing on my part to do yet.

The 'question' still remains ..... I've left in the PreSet module that KG had put in ...

The first question ... this is not a function that I would want to automated, or preset active ... this is an ENGAGE function that says YES to activate a specific index choice. The radio button has PresetManage built in ...

This is where confusion, on my part, can happen

KG ... I read that the v2 fix involved adding a 'preset' trigger ... so it appears that this is crucial to the operation [that's fine with me ] I would have guessed that the radio buttons preset recall would have trigger the events to follow ... but then ... the inner workings of the PM still has its mysteries

OK ... just wanted to report back on things looking good. Now for some heavy testing

THANKS !!!

[KG_is_back]

KG ... I read that the v2 fix involved adding a 'preset' trigger ... so it appears that this is crucial to the operation [that's fine with me ] I would have guessed that the radio buttons preset recall would have trigger the events to follow ... but then ... the inner workings of the PM still has its mysteries

I was just patching holes, without knowing where they came from . PM is an seamless endless mountain of unexpected behavior. It's like a landmine... once you load preset it shoots trigger into random directions like shrapnels (hitting stuff you'd never expect and vice versa).

[RJHollins]

I was just patching holes, without knowing where they came from . PM is an seamless endless mountain of unexpected behavior. It's like a landmine... once you load preset it shoots trigger into random directions like shrapnels (hitting stuff you'd never expect and vice versa).

oh my ... this is not encouraging to hear for us 'rookies'.

Testing has continued with this new 'Engage' routine ... seems you nailed it KG !
I thank you ... and my battered brain thanks you !

More testing, as I push the envelope, continues.