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anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

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anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Postby djbrynte » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:24 pm

like this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh0z-iXqPL8

would be cool having a sample.

mybe 1 for female and one for male.
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Re: anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Postby Spogg » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:03 pm

You need to look into formants and voice synthesis! It's a fascinating topic for certain.

I made a vocal-sounding synth which you can take a peek at; the Quilcom Informant:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8405&p=34330&hilit=informant#p33866

The incuded docs may also help.

Have fun!

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Re: anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Postby djbrynte » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:16 pm

cool spogg i like the sound of your synth realy. But im bit after waveforms for wavearrays strings. with perfect designed formants. i mean talk waveforms. shapes that has this sound in it self a bit :P
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Re: anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Postby martinvicanek » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:23 pm

The trouble with using a wave with formants burnt in is that the formants will shift with the pitch as you move up and down the keyboard (chipmonk effect). To avoid this use a vowel filter, for instance this one here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3726&p=20560#p20560
If you do want the chipmonk then simply run a saw through the vowel filter and save one cycle of it as your waveform. ;)
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Re: anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Postby djbrynte » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:09 pm

cool
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Re: anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Postby Spogg » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:34 am

The other method, which I used in a section of the Informant, is to generate the resonant components as grains. The hardware method for doing this was patented by Yamaha.

This approach gives a much greater degree of control but uses much more CPU. It was interesting to experiment with, but I’m not convinced the results are any better than using the filter method.

Of course formants are present and can be fixed or variable for real-world instruments and enclosures too. It’s been said that the formants for a Stradivarius make it distinct because they are more like those of a female singer.

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Re: anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Postby martinvicanek » Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:24 am

Yeah, you can take grains with a formant signature and release them at different rates so the pitch will vary while the formants stay in place. That's cool. 8-)
One advantage of the vowel filter method is you can morph vowels like in a wah wah. ;)
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Re: anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Postby djbrynte » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:55 pm

the vowel filter is bugged. in Flowstone i have normal effect. But then when open it in FL studio its super highpass on?
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Re: anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Postby martinvicanek » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:22 am

The vowel filter is optimized for stream (blue), it will not work in the poly section (white). I'll up a poly version in a few days.
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