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2SYNts- regular guitar to poly synth
Re: 2SYN-hex MIDI guitar! Seeking a graphic artist
Hello nix,
I passed this up before because you said you needed a hex pickup, but you said you are using a Strat. It doesn't have a hex pickup does it? I also own a Strat and will have to give this a try now. Are you going through the line or mic inputs or something else, like a usb device or the like.
Thanks and keep it going.
Take care, BobF.....
I passed this up before because you said you needed a hex pickup, but you said you are using a Strat. It doesn't have a hex pickup does it? I also own a Strat and will have to give this a try now. Are you going through the line or mic inputs or something else, like a usb device or the like.
Thanks and keep it going.
Take care, BobF.....
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Re: 2SYN-hex MIDI guitar! Seeking a graphic artist
Here are pictures of my axe and soundcard,
if you scroll down->
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 3&start=45
hmm, yeah sorry it really needs a hex pickup.
It costs USD$200 for a pickup from here->
http://www.ubertar.com/hexaphonic/
But you can see if it is good enough with a regular guitar.
Just plug your strat into an instrument in on a soundcard,
and wire it to the 6th input on 2SYN. Now you can demo on just high E.
So play mono lines on high E.
I have 3 soundcards that have 8 ins, and one with 12.
I use my Presonus AudioBox 1818VSL almost exclusively though.
And I go into line in, it has 20db preamps.
Mic input will do too.
Like I say, you need to set gain. With a regular single coil, you will need to switch the multiplier down.
I have firm belief in this method. I feel it will be perfect.
I think it is a good way, maybe finer for me than a Roland,Axon or Fishman rig.
I'll be back in an hour with ver 1.4
Here is a track I made pretty quickly with it, OPL emulator and Rebirth->
https://soundcloud.com/nix808/leed-master
Thanks for the encouragement Bob!
if you scroll down->
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 3&start=45
hmm, yeah sorry it really needs a hex pickup.
It costs USD$200 for a pickup from here->
http://www.ubertar.com/hexaphonic/
But you can see if it is good enough with a regular guitar.
Just plug your strat into an instrument in on a soundcard,
and wire it to the 6th input on 2SYN. Now you can demo on just high E.
So play mono lines on high E.
I have 3 soundcards that have 8 ins, and one with 12.
I use my Presonus AudioBox 1818VSL almost exclusively though.
And I go into line in, it has 20db preamps.
Mic input will do too.
Like I say, you need to set gain. With a regular single coil, you will need to switch the multiplier down.
I have firm belief in this method. I feel it will be perfect.
I think it is a good way, maybe finer for me than a Roland,Axon or Fishman rig.
I'll be back in an hour with ver 1.4
Here is a track I made pretty quickly with it, OPL emulator and Rebirth->
https://soundcloud.com/nix808/leed-master
Thanks for the encouragement Bob!
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Re: 2SYN-hex MIDI guitar! Seeking a graphic artist
The new version is in the first post. Getting closer to no muffs ever.
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nix - Posts: 817
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Re: 2SYN-hex MIDI guitar! Seeking a graphic artist
Thanks nix,
Really getting there, nice example also. Thanks again, BobF.....
Really getting there, nice example also. Thanks again, BobF.....
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Re: 2SYN-hex MIDI guitar! Seeking a graphic artist
Hi again,
I think I have finished this now.
D/L in first post.
Changelog-
-It came to my attention that bend was sending out 3 note offs instead of 1. There are no unwanted note OI any more.
-Velocity will do. It is workable. Play naturally for small humanising, and pluck a little harder to send max velocity
-The individual string's detuners are fixed(it was a missing connection)
- The filters now feature 1st and 2nd harmonic nullers(notches)
- The lower 3 strings track more accurately, but 25ms slower.
These add up to a final release
So now I will make a graphically more complex UI, with more saturation and 3D knobs.
I will redo almost all of the audio demos too.
It's ready to rock!
I have the 551 sample(@44.1k) delay audio conversion to synth coming soon.
I need to order the UI and finish the 1 oscillator polysynth.
I think I have finished this now.
D/L in first post.
Changelog-
-It came to my attention that bend was sending out 3 note offs instead of 1. There are no unwanted note OI any more.
-Velocity will do. It is workable. Play naturally for small humanising, and pluck a little harder to send max velocity
-The individual string's detuners are fixed(it was a missing connection)
- The filters now feature 1st and 2nd harmonic nullers(notches)
- The lower 3 strings track more accurately, but 25ms slower.
These add up to a final release
So now I will make a graphically more complex UI, with more saturation and 3D knobs.
I will redo almost all of the audio demos too.
It's ready to rock!
I have the 551 sample(@44.1k) delay audio conversion to synth coming soon.
I need to order the UI and finish the 1 oscillator polysynth.
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nix - Posts: 817
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Re: 2SYN-hex MIDI guitar!--v1.7
Hello!
I decided I wasn't finished,
edit-it certainly didn't follow notes in MIDI trig lock mode for such a long time as I had put in this line,
although if you use bend mode, it tracked pretty surely
Download is in the first post.
Now it uses a Chebyshev LP instead of a band-pass->
[img width=771 height=600]http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/922/ez8aVh.png[/img]
The performance is ever so sweet, please try it again- and I would love feedback(pun noted)
Instructions:-
- Set gain first. 0db pre amp is multiplier x1. This is where my Audiobox sits. Echo Layla at consumer setting is x3. The fine is adjusted with the knob.
- Fine tune gate pots. This is the note on/off gate for each string.
- If you'd like to use velocity, now press Velocity switch. The edit boxes set min and max, and the pots on the string groups adjust upwards in velocity.
The figure sums the floor(min) value, so for more stable values, put min up and lower the pot(s). Velocity function works fine now in this build.
- Save a preset or project with your set up roughly in order and enjoy playing!
Other notes-
Mono: forces polyphonic playing into mono MIDI. This can still use more than one MIDI channel if you have set that in the string groups.
Bend: will bend strings in tone steps. It will sound terrible on plucks, but tones with consistent sustain sound and play real nice.
My 2SYN MIDI is for:-
Noodling and preset surfing
Composing
Scoring(bend mode off)
Live Performance
This project means a great deal to me, I have not written any programs that are so novel and rewarding.
Please feel free to alter and distribute it. If you would like to host it on your fileshare, I would appreciate it.
I want this binary to outlive me.
Stay tuned in!-- Nick(Phonics)
ps
-the unit is now samplerate independent, so try it at 96k if like
-Also I have a hack in the bend mode I need to fix. This means that it can hang a MIDI note once every 5 minutes or so.
If this happens, press Clear
I decided I wasn't finished,
edit-it certainly didn't follow notes in MIDI trig lock mode for such a long time as I had put in this line,
although if you use bend mode, it tracked pretty surely
Download is in the first post.
Now it uses a Chebyshev LP instead of a band-pass->
[img width=771 height=600]http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/922/ez8aVh.png[/img]
The performance is ever so sweet, please try it again- and I would love feedback(pun noted)
Instructions:-
- Set gain first. 0db pre amp is multiplier x1. This is where my Audiobox sits. Echo Layla at consumer setting is x3. The fine is adjusted with the knob.
- Fine tune gate pots. This is the note on/off gate for each string.
- If you'd like to use velocity, now press Velocity switch. The edit boxes set min and max, and the pots on the string groups adjust upwards in velocity.
The figure sums the floor(min) value, so for more stable values, put min up and lower the pot(s). Velocity function works fine now in this build.
- Save a preset or project with your set up roughly in order and enjoy playing!
Other notes-
Mono: forces polyphonic playing into mono MIDI. This can still use more than one MIDI channel if you have set that in the string groups.
Bend: will bend strings in tone steps. It will sound terrible on plucks, but tones with consistent sustain sound and play real nice.
My 2SYN MIDI is for:-
Noodling and preset surfing
Composing
Scoring(bend mode off)
Live Performance
This project means a great deal to me, I have not written any programs that are so novel and rewarding.
Please feel free to alter and distribute it. If you would like to host it on your fileshare, I would appreciate it.
I want this binary to outlive me.
Stay tuned in!-- Nick(Phonics)
ps
-the unit is now samplerate independent, so try it at 96k if like
-Also I have a hack in the bend mode I need to fix. This means that it can hang a MIDI note once every 5 minutes or so.
If this happens, press Clear
Last edited by nix on Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: 2SYN-hex MIDI guitar!--v1.7
Hi Nick
I really wish I played guitar so I could try this out!
Would you like me to put it on http://www.flowstoners.com under Flowmates?
Cheers
Spogg
I really wish I played guitar so I could try this out!
Would you like me to put it on http://www.flowstoners.com under Flowmates?
Cheers
Spogg
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Spogg - Posts: 3358
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- Location: Birmingham, England
Re: 2SYN-hex MIDI guitar!--v1.7
Yep, I'd love that mate.
If you do this, I will contact you with updates when they come,
I really need to fix this hanging issue in this environment.
A guitar costs $50 min.
It's hard to play it on a regular guitar though,
the notes are limited to hex to start with.
Only one string at a time I think.
Cheers Rex, the current .dll is a fine issue IMO.
If you do this, I will contact you with updates when they come,
I really need to fix this hanging issue in this environment.
A guitar costs $50 min.
It's hard to play it on a regular guitar though,
the notes are limited to hex to start with.
Only one string at a time I think.
Cheers Rex, the current .dll is a fine issue IMO.
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nix - Posts: 817
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Re: 2SYN-hex MIDI guitar!--v1.7
Hi Nick
It's now upped to the site, under Flowmates.
Take a look and if you'd like me to change or add something please just say!
Cheers
Spogg
It's now upped to the site, under Flowmates.
Take a look and if you'd like me to change or add something please just say!
Cheers
Spogg
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Spogg - Posts: 3358
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- Location: Birmingham, England
Re: 2SYN-hex MIDI guitar!--v1.7
Nice one!
I'll make audio demos for FlowStoners+ in the next couple of days.
Piano is a real test, I have a Yamaha one in Cubase up atm
I'll make audio demos for FlowStoners+ in the next couple of days.
Piano is a real test, I have a Yamaha one in Cubase up atm
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