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Re: I'm a new Flowstone user

Postby SampleScience » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:07 am

Nubeat7 wrote:some to purchase, some free.. :)
http://www.z3-audiolabs.com/vst-plugins/


I've tried the freebies, they are very good! The small scratch plugin is simple and fun to use. I've had cool results with Rez3 applied on pads. I also tried one of your demo plugin, "Bondage". Love the concept, but it's not really stable on my setup (FL Studio 11.1, Win 10). But it might be my computer that is too slow.

I'm going to try Repeat X, as I like the GUI and concept, and I'm curious to hear how it sounds.

I'm curious to know if you get lots of complain about the fact that no x64 version of your plugins are available. I plan to release plugins made with FlowStone myself, but I don't want to be asked this questions all the time.
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Re: I'm a new Flowstone user

Postby Nubeat7 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:37 am

SampleScience wrote:But it might be my computer that is too slow.


yes, maybe it is, this is the heaviest for cpu which i have...

SampleScience wrote:I'm curious to know if you get lots of complain about the fact that no x64 version of your plugins are available. I plan to release plugins made with FlowStone myself, but I don't want to be asked this questions all the time.


nearly never about 64 bit, most of the time people ask about mac and linuxversions, but also this is not very often..
but i think there are not a lot of people who interact with you at all, i have no forum or comments for the plugins so people have to write via e-mail and people who are loud about critism prefer to use a forum or public comments..

i think its also good that i wrote it clearly in the requirements so everybody can see it and don't need to ask about..

but i also need to say that i'm not big in business, sure i'm selling a few each month but thats no big business, on the other hand the free stuff is downloaded a lot, so people don't care about as long it is free, when you do good plugins and have a good marketing (i do nearly no marketing) you can do business also with this limitations.
it also is a question of your target customers, sure when you want to play with the big players you need to develope like the big players, and 64 bit win only don't make you a big player, you will need mac and linux support too..
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Re: I'm a new Flowstone user

Postby SampleScience » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:19 am

I'm surprised about Linux, I didn't even know there was a specific format for that OS, I'll have to search for info about this.

A FS dev that does a lot of marketing is G-Sonique. I think they are doing well business wise. They get complains about the lack of x64 plugins, but I personally think it's a good sign; it means that people really want your plugins, otherwise they wouldn't complain about not being able to get it because of lack of x64 or Mac versions.
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Re: I'm a new Flowstone user

Postby Nubeat7 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:52 pm

The G-sonique ratpack, copy-paste from the Forum and Selling it under 3 or more different companynames, email-spamming with phishing Warnings all the Time.....
Thats exactly how anybody shouldn't do it.... :roll:
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Re: I'm a new Flowstone user

Postby SampleScience » Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:18 am

Nubeat7 wrote:The G-sonique ratpack, copy-paste from the Forum and Selling it under 3 or more different companynames, email-spamming with phishing Warnings all the Time.....
Thats exactly how anybody shouldn't do it.... :roll:


I wasn't aware of that. What do they do exactly? Copy stock FS projects and rebrand them with their names on it?

As for the emails, I never subscribed to their list, as I got some of their plugins with Mixcraft.
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Re: I'm a new Flowstone user

Postby Nubeat7 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:35 am

they also came to me asking if i would sell my plugins on one of their pages, 40 % for me 60% for them, and they want to fix the price + some superstupid clause when i want to finish the contract too fast or when they didn't sell enough i would have to pay them... :lol:

since then i get the spam from them
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Re: I'm a new Flowstone user

Postby tulamide » Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:39 pm

Nubeat7 wrote:they also came to me asking if i would sell my plugins on one of their pages, 40 % for me 60% for them, and they want to fix the price + some superstupid clause when i want to finish the contract too fast or when they didn't sell enough i would have to pay them... :lol:

since then i get the spam from them

All the hard work they do for you must be paid somehow! I mean, they only take 60%, that's so gracious! I wonder how they survive? They are so generous, offering you a place to host your plugins, even sell them in their name, so that you don't need to fear all that fan mail disasters from pleased customers, and doing all the many tasks - while you just have to put some blocks together and call it a vst! Still you are so ungrateful that you don't want to pay them, if they don't get their money from customers? How rude you are!!!1!!!11!!!!
"There lies the dog buried" (German saying translated literally)
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Re: I'm a new Flowstone user

Postby Nubeat7 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:34 pm

tulamide wrote:All the hard work they do for you must be paid somehow! I mean, they only take 60%, that's so gracious! I wonder how they survive? They are so generous, offering you a place to host your plugins, even sell them in their name, so that you don't need to fear all that fan mail disasters from pleased customers, and doing all the many tasks - while you just have to put some blocks together and call it a vst! Still you are so ungrateful that you don't want to pay them, if they don't get their money from customers? How rude you are!!!1!!!11!!!!


oh, now i know why they told me that they only want to work with seriuos companies only because i didn't answer anymore.After asking about their company adress and the name of the owneri got a lot of bla bla but no names and no adresses so i wasn't interested to answer anymore... maybe i'm just not born for that kind of business
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Re: I'm a new Flowstone user

Postby adamszabo » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:23 pm

tulamide wrote:All the hard work they do for you must be paid somehow! I mean, they only take 60%, that's so gracious! I wonder how they survive? They are so generous, offering you a place to host your plugins, even sell them in their name, so that you don't need to fear all that fan mail disasters from pleased customers, and doing all the many tasks - while you just have to put some blocks together and call it a vst! Still you are so ungrateful that you don't want to pay them, if they don't get their money from customers? How rude you are!!!1!!!11!!!!


Haha sarcasm nucler bomb! But yeah, that company is strange and run by 11 year olds propably :mrgreen:
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Re: I'm a new Flowstone user

Postby SampleScience » Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:39 pm

Nubeat7 wrote:
tulamide wrote:All the hard work they do for you must be paid somehow! I mean, they only take 60%, that's so gracious! I wonder how they survive? They are so generous, offering you a place to host your plugins, even sell them in their name, so that you don't need to fear all that fan mail disasters from pleased customers, and doing all the many tasks - while you just have to put some blocks together and call it a vst! Still you are so ungrateful that you don't want to pay them, if they don't get their money from customers? How rude you are!!!1!!!11!!!!


oh, now i know why they told me that they only want to work with seriuos companies only because i didn't answer anymore.After asking about their company adress and the name of the owneri got a lot of bla bla but no names and no adresses so i wasn't interested to answer anymore... maybe i'm just not born for that kind of business


Well, it's a business, and there's indeed a lot of work if their market it well, I don't know if they do it well for plugins though. I have a sample library that they sell on one of their site and they do bring sales and I get my money.

In any case, I'm not interested in defending them here anyways...
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