Synced LFO

[RJHollins]

lets say we use 4/4

is a bar 4 quarter notes? or 4*4 quarter notes?
sadly i'm not a musician as i always understood it a beat is 4 quarter notes and a bar is 4 beats (16 quaternotes)

The denominator defines what type of note get 1 beat. In this case, 4 [quarter note] gets 1 beat. Thereby, 4 quarter notes would fill a measure. If it was an 8 [eighth note] in the denominator, then an 1/8 note would get 1 beat. A measure would contain 8 eighth notes.

Obviously, we are just describing a full measure with the same [fractional] value, 1/4s or 1/8ths.

The numerator defines how many beats in a measure [bar].

So 4/4 time signature says: 4 beats in a measure, 1/4 note gets 1 beat.

6/8 time sig .... 6 beats/measure, 1/8th note gets 1 beat.

TEMPO is defined as BPM [Beats Per Minute].

[Perfect Human Interface]

its because you multiply PPQ with speed, so it counts faster and you get a shorter ramp..

Ah, Nubeat, I completely missed your post here. Haha oops.

I'll take another look at this soon. I don't care for the math either myself. The silly thing is it's not even complex math; I just get confused trying to keep track of everything in my head while staring at all these wires and nested modules on a screen. The longer I try to think about it the more confused I get. Hopefully now that I've had a rest from this I can go back and make more sense of it.

[Nubeat7]

oh man thank you guys, so the whole bar calculation i did is wrong then, because like tulamide said it calculated for 4 bars (when using 4/4) which should be just 1 bar, so i need to calculate the barcount as follows:

barcount = 4 (basenote is always a quater because PPQ is position per quaternote)/denom * numerator (beats in bar)

then you calculate as you would intend on a barbased cycle

speed = 32 for 1/32 barlenght cycle

because the cycle runs 32 times in one bar

here is the fix..

please tell me if everything is working right now, it also should work fine with 7/8, 5/4, 3/4...and whatever

[Perfect Human Interface]

Will check it out later!

[RJHollins]

Hi NuBeat ...

If I've actually helped YOU ... that makes ME happy

[Nubeat7]

oh yes RJ, you did, i was wrong with this beats and bars thing all the time , thank you for your clear explanation!

[Father]

please tell me if everything is working right now, it also should work fine with 7/8, 5/4, 3/4...and whatever

Yeah its not working in synced mode.
Also in the speed selector, values for 1/8 and 3/64 seem to be incorrect. I think they should be 8 and 24.

[Nubeat7]

hmm, strange, i just did some fast tests with the original steplfo in cubase and it seems to work fine there..

about the selector values, yes for 1/8 it should be 8 and for 3/64 yes 24 should be right - i just divided the old values through 4 , maybe i did a mistake there...


where you testet it? and whats not right?

[Nubeat7]

oh i found the bug, its a stupid code bug i did you need to use the PPQ input (written with capital letters) and delete the float variable ppq (with the small letters)

just reuploaded it..

[tulamide]

We can start to call it a real teamwork

If I'm not totally wrong, then the numbers for the selector are mostly wrong below 1 bar. The calculation should be

1/barindicator
For a 3/4 bar that would be 1/(3/4) = 1/0.75 = 1.33333 (Note that it's periodic, but FS will reduce it to 5 digits after the dot)
for a 3/8 bar it would be 1/(3/8) = 1/0.375 = 2.66667 (Also periodic)
for a 3/16 bar 1/(3/16) = 1/0.1875 = 5.33333 (periodic)

etc.

If I'm right, the correct list of numbers below "1 bar" is

1.33333
2
2.66667
4
5.33333
8
10.66667
16
21.33333
32

EDIT: And similar for the numbers above "1 bar"
"3/2 bar" = 0.66667
"3" = 0.33333
"6" = 0.16667