Any plans to support VST hosting?

[woodslanding]

I sure like the way flowstone is organized, and I'd love to create a VST host with it. Any plans to support hosting? I like that it can create .exe's, and from what I've seen so far it seems easier to understand than max/msp and more powerful than usine.

Thanks!
-eric

[Exo]

Welcome Eric,

I doubt this will ever happen, there is no technical reason why they haven't implemented it yet but they clearly have made a decision not to allow it.

AFAIA a very early beta had hosting VST plugins but they scrapped it.

[KG_is_back]

I've heard, it was pretty easy to load a VST plugin, make your own gui and resell it as a "new" product, so they removed the feature, because it was inevitable. It's cruel, it's a shame, but it is a very dangerous feature from a software as easy usable as Flowstone/Synthmaker.

[woodslanding]

Well, one solution to that is to allow it to be either a host OR a vst, but not both.

But I suppose that might be difficult to implement.

Am I the only one out there that feels like there are 100 plugins for every purpose I could ever imagine, and no appropriate host?

If you want to record with vsts, there are a dozen (very similar) workstations, and then live and all its clones.

On the other hand, for actual live perfomance with vsts there are a number of poorly-designed, buggy, ultra-small-budget hosts.... which is why I've been rolling my own. Sure would love a better IDE for it though.

[Nubeat7]

sensomusic hollyhock is great when you want to build your own liveperformance setup, the bad thing is that it has a gui bug with FS / SM plugins, there is audiomulch if you like to patch your own setups, i normally use renoise for my livesets, also had an eye on bitwig but really have no time to dig into it..

to roll up your own c++ with juce for sure would be the best solution after it was originally developed for tracktion.. you also find a mini host as example in it when you download the framework, but developing an own DAW by yourself will be your livework

[CoreStylerz]

So basically anyone can make a c++ host, change gui and resell.
It's not easier ok, but you can do it.

[woodslanding]

Yeah, I looked into Juce (which both Hollyhock and Max/Msp are now using) but as you say--it would be my life's work. I'm not really up for digging into C++ right now. If there was juce for Java I'd give it a shot.

I'm not even sure Max could handle my needs, as you need to open a seperate window for each thread. And I suppose FS is not multithreaded either..... I just wish Hollyhock was as well designed as FS seems to be (based on reading the manual.)

cheers,
-e