anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

For general discussion related FlowStone
Post Reply
djbrynte
Posts: 613
Joined: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:51 am
Contact:

anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Post by djbrynte »

like this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh0z-iXqPL8

would be cool having a sample.

mybe 1 for female and one for male.
User avatar
Spogg
Posts: 3368
Joined: Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:24 pm
Location: Birmingham, England
Contact:

Re: anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Post by Spogg »

You need to look into formants and voice synthesis! It's a fascinating topic for certain.

I made a vocal-sounding synth which you can take a peek at; the Quilcom Informant:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8405&p=34330&hilit=informant#p33866

The incuded docs may also help.

Have fun!

Spogg
djbrynte
Posts: 613
Joined: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:51 am
Contact:

Re: anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Post by djbrynte »

cool spogg i like the sound of your synth realy. But im bit after waveforms for wavearrays strings. with perfect designed formants. i mean talk waveforms. shapes that has this sound in it self a bit :P
User avatar
martinvicanek
Posts: 1334
Joined: Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:28 pm

Re: anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Post by martinvicanek »

The trouble with using a wave with formants burnt in is that the formants will shift with the pitch as you move up and down the keyboard (chipmonk effect). To avoid this use a vowel filter, for instance this one here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3726&p=20560#p20560
If you do want the chipmonk then simply run a saw through the vowel filter and save one cycle of it as your waveform. ;)
djbrynte
Posts: 613
Joined: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:51 am
Contact:

Re: anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Post by djbrynte »

cool
User avatar
Spogg
Posts: 3368
Joined: Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:24 pm
Location: Birmingham, England
Contact:

Re: anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Post by Spogg »

The other method, which I used in a section of the Informant, is to generate the resonant components as grains. The hardware method for doing this was patented by Yamaha.

This approach gives a much greater degree of control but uses much more CPU. It was interesting to experiment with, but I’m not convinced the results are any better than using the filter method.

Of course formants are present and can be fixed or variable for real-world instruments and enclosures too. It’s been said that the formants for a Stradivarius make it distinct because they are more like those of a female singer.

Cheers

Spogg
User avatar
martinvicanek
Posts: 1334
Joined: Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:28 pm

Re: anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Post by martinvicanek »

Yeah, you can take grains with a formant signature and release them at different rates so the pitch will vary while the formants stay in place. That's cool. 8-)
One advantage of the vowel filter method is you can morph vowels like in a wah wah. ;)
djbrynte
Posts: 613
Joined: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:51 am
Contact:

Re: anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Post by djbrynte »

the vowel filter is bugged. in Flowstone i have normal effect. But then when open it in FL studio its super highpass on?
User avatar
martinvicanek
Posts: 1334
Joined: Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:28 pm

Re: anyone that have a perfect vowel talking waveform?

Post by martinvicanek »

The vowel filter is optimized for stream (blue), it will not work in the poly section (white). I'll up a poly version in a few days.
Post Reply